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Post by Spiced Wine on Mar 11, 2012 16:50:05 GMT -6
I am fascinated (and remember the original discussion with Moreth). I scrapped what I thought was a quite poetic (ish) description about the first sunrise because the more I wrote of the series, the more I couldn't believe, or write believably of, the flat Earth or the creation of the Sun and Moon. I think I've fudged or ignored the 'Ages of the Stars' because while I'll happily write about gods and demons and 'angels,' I can't get my head round the Valar creating the Sun and Moon or ages under starlight, or a flat Earth. Pity, as the 'Ages of the Stars' it's so poetic, but I run into too many impossibilities.
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Post by Urloth on Mar 11, 2012 17:11:18 GMT -6
I have a sort of "brush over" excuse on the boil right now given all the great arguments against there actually being a eternal "night" that the elves woke up in.
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Post by thoughtfulelf on Mar 17, 2012 21:32:35 GMT -6
Too much light's theorized to be one of the causes of ICU psychosis - a condition in which ICU patients frankly go nuts. Putting those patients in rooms where you can dim the lights at night seriously reduces the incidence of the condition. Waitwaitwait - then how did the Elves of Aman not go crazy during the Time of the Trees, when there was only light and twilight (during the Mingling), not light and dark? (Maybe that explains something about those Noldor... )
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Post by Urloth on Mar 17, 2012 23:40:52 GMT -6
sleep masks? XD
hey does anybody know, this is sort of relevant, the time it took the elves to get from Cuiviénen to Valinor? (see? time and Cuiviénen) I have a timeline that says a year....
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Post by elleth on Mar 18, 2012 4:29:35 GMT -6
Sleep masks. Or extremely thick curtains. XD As for the duration of the Journey, it took them hell of a long time, going by the Annals of Aman and the Grey Annals. In the Reckoning of the Trees (which means every year is roughly 9.58 of our sun years) the migration of the Eldar looks like this: Clotho123 has done some research and come up with this Silmarillion Chronology (which is where I coped the above from): www.silmarillionwritersguild.org/reference/references/chronology-of-the-silmarillion.php
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Post by Urloth on Mar 18, 2012 6:06:02 GMT -6
watch me fail at maths.... *counts on fingers*
so.... 33 - 5 = 28 tree years
28 x 9.5 = ... carry the....oh fuckit *gets out calculator* 266 of our years
mother of god that is a LONG LONG trip.Their feet must have been so sore :C (don't blame the nandor for abandoning)
wait its takes elves 50(of our) years to grow to maturity right? AHAHHA! I love it when multiple queries are answered at once.
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Post by surgicalsteel on Mar 18, 2012 9:04:33 GMT -6
Too much light's theorized to be one of the causes of ICU psychosis - a condition in which ICU patients frankly go nuts. Putting those patients in rooms where you can dim the lights at night seriously reduces the incidence of the condition. Waitwaitwait - then how did the Elves of Aman not go crazy during the Time of the Trees, when there was only light and twilight (during the Mingling), not light and dark? (Maybe that explains something about those Noldor... ) I've wondered if the sudden darkness when the Trees were killed explained the rebellion of the Noldor - part grief and shock, but part the worst case of seasonal affective disorder ever.
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