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Post by ignoblebard on Jan 19, 2009 18:59:28 GMT -6
Does anyone know, and can anyone write phonetically, how to pronounce these Elvish names:
Thranduil Elrohir Haldir
I may have more later but I've been wondering about them for awhile. I thought I knew but some recent reading has me doubting my (non-existent) Elvish language skills.
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Post by Darth Fingon on Jan 19, 2009 20:55:43 GMT -6
Does anyone know, and can anyone write phonetically, how to pronounce these Elvish names: Thranduil Elrohir Haldir The stress is on the first syllable in all of those names. THRAN-du-il EL-ro-hir HAL-dir
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Post by jael on Jan 20, 2009 10:34:36 GMT -6
Just to make this clear and be certain I'm not applying English rules to the consonant sounds would this be:
THRAN-doo-ill (or THRAN-doo-eel?)
EL-row-heer
HAL-deer?
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Post by ignoblebard on Jan 20, 2009 21:06:33 GMT -6
Thanks, Darth. That helps. That's pretty much how I've heard them in my mind.
Now I'm wondering the same thing Jael is wondering.
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Post by Darth Fingon on Jan 21, 2009 14:28:32 GMT -6
THRAN-doo-ill (or THRAN-doo-eel?) EL-row-heer HAL-deer? You'll want a sort of EE sound for every I, so THRAN-du-eel rather than -ill.
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Post by ignoblebard on Jan 21, 2009 18:26:44 GMT -6
YEA! Thanks, Darth. That's just what I needed to know.
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Post by jael on Jan 22, 2009 12:25:15 GMT -6
Crap. Edit time for a phonetic rendition in NFA.
Or does anyone really give a rat's patoot?
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Post by crowdaughter on Jan 22, 2009 14:50:17 GMT -6
You'll want a sort of EE sound for every I, so THRAN-du-eel rather than -ill. I fear I never really thought about this, before. German has a long i sound (not as in eye, more like in eel: but it still goes more in the direction of the i in Hillary, or in.) I always assumed it would go in that direction. Oh, well.
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Post by aearwen on Jan 22, 2009 20:27:12 GMT -6
Crap. Edit time for a phonetic rendition in NFA. Or does anyone really give a rat's patoot? Leave it alone. Posie's mispronunciation of Thranduil is fine. She's pretty rattled, and hearing it wrong would be understandable. PS: I love that story, BTW. It was one of the first LoTR fics I read when I was first getting into the fandom.
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Post by jael on Jan 23, 2009 11:41:28 GMT -6
;D Really?
For me, the 'first story' that got me into the actual writing of fanfiction was Elise LeRouret's Pottymouth. Up until then, I'd thought, why bother? Tolkien wrote it all. But that one was so different that I realized there WAS more of the story to be told.
NFA needs a serious edit in most archives, based on what I've learned from Darth about language and Elven culture since then. My Wood-elves, even in modern day, will need to use the proper Sindarin terms and write in the cirth rather than the tengwar. So I might as well change Posey's line of dialogue while I'm at it.
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Post by aearwen on Jan 23, 2009 11:47:43 GMT -6
Yup. And I found it because the very first story I read and really liked was Cophetua - and I found NFA by heading to your author page. If anything, you're the one to blame for making me fall in love with Thranduil, you know... ;D
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Post by crowdaughter on Jan 23, 2009 16:39:38 GMT -6
If anything, you're the one to blame for making me fall in love with Thranduil, you know... ;D She has a talent for that... ;D
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