Gondorian Sindarin: Elrohir

[Darth Fingon]

(The following nonsense was also posted to GoI)

So in my usual nighttime reading up on the evolution of dialects for invented languages, I stumbled upon an interesting possibility.

Standard 'Elvish' Sindarin allows for an intervocalic CH sound, as can be observed in words like Eluchíl.

In the Gondorian dialect, however, this CH is softened to H. Eluchíl -> Eluhíl.

Both Rohan and Rohir are Gondorian versions of what would likely be Rochan and Rochir in Elven speech. What this means, then, is that Elrohir could very possibly be Elrochir at home in Rivendell, and that the LotR narrative defaulted to Gondorian spelling.



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[oshun]

Nov 14, 2008 23:52:45 GMT -6 Darth Fingon said:

(The following nonsense was also posted to GoI)

So in my usual nighttime reading up on the evolution of dialects for invented languages, I stumbled upon an interesting possibility.

Standard 'Elvish' Sindarin allows for an intervocalic CH sound, as can be observed in words like Eluchíl.

In the Gondorian dialect, however, this CH is softened to H. Eluchíl -> Eluhíl.

Both Rohan and Rohir are Gondorian versions of what would likely be Rochan and Rochir in Elven speech. What this means, then, is that Elrohir could very possibly be Elrochir at home in Rivendell, and that the LotR narrative defaulted to Gondorian spelling.



*This has been another public service announcement brought to you by impractical and pretentious trivia that should never be used in serious fanfiction.*

OMG that's fascinating. I've often wondered what would be the differences between Sindarin spoken in Gondor with that spoken in Rivendell or Lothlorien. Lazy as hell as usual, of course, I have done nothing to try to find out. It would have been useful to know for my WIP LotR novel where I tend to refer a lot to what languages people are speaking and imply there are differences in the pronunciation of Sindarin--I thought there had to be--but have tried to keep any references as vague as possible since I don't know a thing about it.

I was particulary interested in what Sindarin spoken in Dol Amroth might sound like, since my heroine hails from there. I relied largely on the introduction to David Salo's book Gateway to Sindarin for who spoke what, where at the end of the Third Age. He claims that Sindarin is the first language in Dol Amroth and maps out where it was most commonly used in other areas of Gondor. Is that a OK source for a lazy person?