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Post by Darth Fingon on Jan 14, 2009 13:52:32 GMT -6
Aearwen and I have been discussing some kind of neo-Sindarin project, so I'll throw the question out here:
Is there any word/phrase, which cannot be found in any conventional word- or phrase-list, that would be useful to you?
So far, the word 'please' has been a popular one. Here's what I've found out.
While there is nothing even remotely close to 'please' among attested Sindarin words, it does show up in the Qenya Lexicon. The Qenya word is iqista, which would become iquista in standard Quenya. If we reverse-engineer from there and assume the primitive version was ikwista from root a root like IKW, the Old Sindarin would be ipista. This undergoes a lenition and a-affectation to make standard Sindarin ibesta- (verb).
The verb ibesta- would mean something along the lines of 'to plead/beg/request'. The first person form is ibeston (I beg), or one can use the gerund ibestad roughly in the same way we use English 'please'.
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Post by crowdaughter on Jan 20, 2009 18:18:46 GMT -6
Thank you, Darth! That is a word that nis really useful for me, because I am direly in need of a Sindarin form of "I beg of you" in my fics, especially if I want a character to say this in his sleep or dream while a non-Sindarin speaking character listens, so simply using "I beg" or "please in English does not really help, in this case.
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