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Post by kimberleighe on Dec 5, 2011 0:05:23 GMT -6
I am in the midst of writing another myth about how a constellation came to be and I'm having some trouble. My OC (Idhreniel) is Sindar and I am stuck in how she might address the Valar. For example, I know that she'd call Varda by Elbereth, not Elentari. However, I am having trouble finding a translation for Yavanna and Melkor. From my understanding, the Sindarin name Morgoth was given by Feanor, but I would think that that specific name would have trickled down to where she resided by the Sea. Would Bauglir be more appropriate?
Please help!
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Post by elleth on Dec 5, 2011 4:24:37 GMT -6
You're not wrong about Morgoth - Feanor originally named him Moringotto in Quenya, and I suppose his sons and followers carried that to Middle-earth where it would have been turned into Morgoth either after Thingol's ban of Quenya or after contact with the Sindar in general. So, especially if your Sinda has been in contact with the Noldor, she'd be likely to use that form. If she hasn't, there's either Belegûr (also meaning He Who Arises in Might) as old form, or Belegûrth (Great Death) which was the common Sindarin form without Noldorin interference.
The only other Valar who'd have a Sindarin name prior to the arrival of the Noldor would be Manwe, called Aran Einior (Elder King) and Orome, who was called Tauron (Lord of Forests). I'm rather sure there would be Sindarin names for the rest, but those might be based on their Quenya titles rather than 'original' Sindarin, unless Melian (who presumably would have known their names) introduced the pantheon into Doriath, but that's speculation on my part.
For Yavanna, we know for example that the (Q) Yavannildi were called Ivonwin in Sindarin, which allows the educated guess that she was called Ivon in Sindarin (though the etymologies apparently also list her name as Ivann). I'm not sure why there is a vowel shift (dialects? The Noldor began speaking Northern Sindarin), but Ivann is probably the form more in accordance with later Sindarin.
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Post by kimberleighe on Dec 5, 2011 19:09:50 GMT -6
Thank you for the addition Melkor translations and about Manwe/Orome. It is most helpful!!!
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