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Post by oshun on Apr 18, 2009 16:12:01 GMT -6
Does anyone recall where to find the original, unabridged version of the Second Prophecy of Mandos? I've found it before and even copied on my harddrive at some point in the past, but recently I cannot seem to able to dig it out. I even had Dawn F. send me a copy of it via email once (so I am embarrassed to ask her again) and lost that too! I think there is a conspiracy by the Valar against me using this material.
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Post by robinka on Apr 19, 2009 4:29:15 GMT -6
Here you can find the mentions of the Second Prophecy (scroll down past the text in Russian. If you'd like me to translate it, let me know. It doesn't say much more than what the Dagor Dagorath is, though). Hope that helps
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Rhapsody
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Post by Rhapsody on Apr 19, 2009 14:34:13 GMT -6
I have it in my research notes for Requiem (since the last chapter is about that), however I just realised that the stuff is offline (just as the raw/half polished Nirnaeth research) at the moment... I shall dig it up and send it to you tomorrow ok?
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Post by oshun on Apr 19, 2009 22:08:40 GMT -6
Thanks so much, Robinka. That is very useful because it gives the different sites. They've shortened the quotations in the cases where I needed more. But now at least I know which books they are in.
Rhapsody, if it's not too much trouble. I know you are busy and that sounds like a lot of work for you. I just thought someone might have it handy already. The one I was thinking of was the one which references Feanor's role and the Silmarili.
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Rhapsody
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Post by Rhapsody on Apr 20, 2009 2:30:45 GMT -6
Here we go:
This is what I lifted from my author notes of Requiem (yes I am too lazy to type it over from HOME, did it once hehe)
Regarding the Last Battle called Dagor Dagorath, which is also referred by "the Day of Doom", the Doom, and "end of days" and what follows after it:
$31. Thus spake Mandos in prophecy, when the Gods sat in judgement in Valinor, and the rumour of his words was whispered among all the Elves of the West. When the world is old and the Powers grow weary, then Morgoth, seeing that the guard sleepeth, shall come back through the Door of Night out of the Timeless Void; and he shall destroy the Sun and Moon. But Earendel shall descend upon him as a white and searing flame and drive him from the airs. Then shall the Last Battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Morgoth, and on his right hand shall be Fionwe, and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, coming from the halls of Mandos; and the black sword of Turin shall deal unto Morgoth his death and final end; and so shall the children of Hurin and all Men be avenged.
$32. Thereafter shall Earth be broken and re-made, and the Silmarils shall be recovered out of Air and Earth and Sea; for Earendel shall descend and surrender that flame which he hath had in keeping. Then Feanor shall take the Three Jewels and bear them to Yavanna Palurien; and she will break them and with their fire rekindle the Two Trees, and a great light shall come forth. And the Mountains of Valinor shall be levelled, so that the Light shall go out over all the world. In that light the Gods will grow young again, and the Elves awake and all their dead arise, and the purpose of Iluvatar be fulfilled concerning them. But of Men in that day the prophecy of Mandos doth not speak, and no Man it names, save Turin only, and to him a place is given among the sons of the Valar.
History of Middle-Earth, The Lost Road and other writings, the conclusion of the Quenta Silmarillion
Good luck honey!
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